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<!--Generated by Squarespace V5 Site Server v5.13.158 (http://www.squarespace.com) on Wed, 22 May 2013 08:02:31 GMT--><?xml-stylesheet type="text/css" href="/universal/styles/feed.css"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title>Journal - Comments</title><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/</link><description></description><copyright></copyright><language>en-US</language><generator>Squarespace V5 Site Server v5.13.158 (http://www.squarespace.com)</generator><item><title>Ed comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Ed</author><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:20:38 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20034901</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Well, 14mm lenses are not &quot;for the common citizen snapshooter&quot;. I owned a few of these beast down the years. One was a Nikon 14 mm (actually a Tamron but this was the same lens, no matter what they say). It was sharp enough for analog (and I used T-Max and Delta films). Kept it for years for the maybe FF Nikon, but then I decided to definitly go mirrorless and so it was sold the other day. Then I used a 7-14 and I liked the lens a lot but indeed nasty flare is an issue (but I don&#39;t use ultra wide lenses in flare prone situations anyhow). But having said that, so was the Nikon and even my Olympus M.Zuiko 9-18 can flare from time to time in direct sunlight (so I stopped pointing it towards the sun which is a bit of a nusance I must say). Or I use my hand to help the lenshood (a must with these lenses) and the lenshood of the 9 is much more prominent as the lenshood of the 7-14 (which is like a Brasilian bikini, present but not noticable (nor functional :-)). In flare prone situations I wouldn&#39;t use the 7-14 but the 9-18 (which is my day to day ultra wide angle). Its a bit of a mistery how the flare in the 7-14 can be prominent in the OM-D (and to a degree less so on the GH3) but not on the G3 it seems (for instance). It seems the sensor has something to do with it. I guess some of it is coupled to the nearly non existent AA filter. Maybe that throws unwanted reflections. You could of course also by a second hand G3/GH2 for peanuts for use with this lens. But anyhow, flare and ultrawides are quite common companions. </p><p>Greets, Ed.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Rasmus comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Rasmus</author><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 10:37:58 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20033954</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Yup, the Panasonic 7-14 seems very sharp indeed, I just don&#39;t know how severe the flare issue is. I have tried it a few times on my EM-5 and have usually seen rather strong flares. However, I have only tried it in large indoors venues with lots of strong lights, perhaps I wouldn&#39;t have that much flaring when shooting landscapes.</p><p>Another lens I didn&#39;t think of yesterday was the Olympus 7-14 4/3 lens. That lens also seems to be rather sharp.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Ed comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Ed</author><pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 06:17:32 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20033693</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Nikon-Nikkor-AF-S-14-24mm-f-2.8G-ED-review-A-very-impressive-ultra-wide-performer-on-the-Nikon-D800</p><p>Greets, Ed.</p><p>The problem with these test however is that a lens (especially a zoom) can have a very defined sweet spot. So this baby works best at 16 (near the lower end of the zoom range), and  it will have some small drawbacks (not as sharp in the edges as a prime) that stem from the zoom design (almost all zooms suffer from corner problems, as do a lot of ultra wide primes as well, I had a Nikon 14 that did not shine in that department). </p><p>P.S. the best UW zoom I found was a 7-14 panasonic for micro 4/3.....but that does not get quite as high in detail on the DxO score (only tested on older pana sensors ot on the newest generation and that makes quite a difference).</p><p>Greets, Ed.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Rasmus comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Rasmus</author><pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 11:01:44 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20031590</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Personally, THE thing I would want to know about the D800E is how it performs with the Nikon 14-24/2.8. For some reason I haven&#39;t found anyone doing that test. It&#39;s easy to assume that the supposedly best wide angle ever, combined with the D800 would be a dream combination, but assuming is one thing, an actual test is something completely different.</p><p>Personally, the only reason why I&#39;d buy a D800E would be for use with that lens. Of course, if I had a D800E I&#39;d certainly buy more lenses that that, but the OM-D gives me everything I want except for at the longest and shortest focal lengths. The 9-18 and the 100-300 are the only lenses I have that I&#39;m slightly disappointed with. I ought to give the 7-14 a good try to see if it is significantly sharper than the 9-18 (tests seems to indicate that they have rather similar performance) and if the flare issue is manageable. But the 14-24 seems tempting in spite of it&#39;s huge price tag and weight.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Mike comments on Olympus PEN E-P5 w. VF-4 Hands On Preview</title><author>Mike</author><pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/8/olympus-pen-e-p5-w-vf-4-hands-on-preview.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20026874</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>PekkaPotka: In my opinion the grip is making the camera taller, heavier, more expensive and fixes issue that should have been fixed in the designing process (even G6 is a bit lower in height than OM-D without grip and has flash on board) - such as move the mount a bit to the side, make the grip a bit more protruding... <br/>I personally simply do not like to buy extra stuff to use the camera out of the box. It is not only matter of OM-D but also E-PM1, E-PL3 etc - and people gluing some ugly DIY grips to their new shiny cameras. <br/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huveZYcfn1M&amp;list=PL327281AB2093350F&amp;index=2<br/>That is why I skipped both PL3 and PL5 series - the tiny grip. The E-PL2 had the best one.<br/>As an enthusiast hiker and traveller I chose m43 for an &quot;as small&amp;light as possible&quot; system and have been hoping for a rangefinder for 3 years with my E-PL1 and E-PL2. Not any more. Now I know it is simply not coming. <br/>I do understand though that there are other photographers (such as street shooters) that are happy with the HLD-6, dont mind the hump etc. and love the looks of the camera to the last bit.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Ed comments on Olympus PEN E-P5 w. VF-4 Hands On Preview</title><author>Ed</author><pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 08:52:31 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/8/olympus-pen-e-p5-w-vf-4-hands-on-preview.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20023897</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>I see it this way. Is my photography dependent on shalow depth of field and the abililty to do that in bright light? Nope.....so, 1/8000th is irrelevant a 52 ND+3 filter on my Nikon 50mm 1.4 will have to do. Do I own a flash? Nope.......so 1/360 flash synchro is irrelevant (at least for now). Do I like to travel light? Yes, so both cameras would do the trick. Do I like to compose on the back screen? No, so I need a viewfinder. Do I like to fumble with a viewfinder each time I step of my bike and take the camera out of the bag (in which it does not fit using the VF4 lump of course), a healthy big NO (if lived through that with a GF1 and viewfinder). So my OM-D is here to stay.....at least till 2020 if I can help it. I&#39;ll rather invest in glass. </p><p>Greets, Ed.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Pekka Potka comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Pekka Potka</author><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 19:01:54 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20022824</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ed, beautifully explained!<br/>Juha: Sensor size has only one role and that is the &quot;depth&quot; of single sensels or pixels. Take Nikon D4 and OM-D, both at 16 MP. With equal (relatively) lenses they both would give just as detailed image, but as D4 has an AA filter it loses in practise. For details at base ISO only the number of pixels counts not sensor size.  Final image has pixels which are totally unaware of the physical size of pixels on sensor.</p><p>The real difference comes now from the depth of that pixel well. OM-D saturates at 25.000 photons while D4 does it at 120.000 photons. This means that D4 is almost 5X better instrument at measuring differences in tones. At highlight there is no practical difference because both are good enough, but in shadows when the changes are subtle D4 can see these changes a lot better and further into blackness. This corresponds to higher dynamic range and less noise at high ISOs.   <br/>-p-</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Juha comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Juha</author><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 18:25:21 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20022756</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ed!<br/>No, it was not Kankkunen... :)</p><p>Great thanks for your thorough explanation on the variety of &quot;parameters&quot; having effect on the final result. I agree that sensor is not itself the thing. This was just wondering about what is really the role of sensor size in this game. I have OM-D and I know that it really fulfills my needs very well - using mostly 12/2 lens. <br/>With Very Best Regards<br/>Juha</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Ed comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Ed</author><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20022722</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Juha (Kankkunen?),</p><p>I do not take pictures with a sensor but with a camera. That is a sensor and a lens. As a classic photographer a picture to me is composed of three things:</p><p>1) Shuttertime (fast enough to freeze motion, even when shooting landscape since tree do move in the wind, but who am I to explain that to a Fin :-) being Dutch and all).</p><p>2) Aperture (small enough to give enough DOF unless you are a shallow DOF junkie), but in classic photography we fight for DOF. But also large enough to be not blinded by the dradfull difraction monster.</p><p>Added to the party is recently:</p><p>4) ISO behaviour (as ISO rises noise increases but also dynamic range drops (in some cases like a stone in vacuum)).</p><p>5) When using a nose and two hands as a tripod also IS ads to the fun. Well endowed cameras like the OM-D (5 axis IBIS is &quot;as good as it gets&quot; without calling Helen Hunt and Jack Nicholson) outperform less well endowed cameras like the Nikon or Canon.</p><p>6) Sensor size but that cuts both ways (something FF addicts tend to, well, forget). Bigger sensor means better noise performance and less risk on diffraction (bigger sensor wells means bigger airy disks are acceptable). Smaller sensor means more inate DOF therefore (using the same shuttertime), an OM-D can use 8 where a Nikon D800 has to blink through aperture 16 to get the same DOF. That translates to lets say an OM-D at 200 has to be compared to a FF at 800 (something most camera testers also seem to forget). </p><p>7) Lens performance. Lenses for smaller sensors have a smaller image circle and the smaller the image circle the easier a lens is to build. So if you compare a Nikon 35 with an Olympus 17 or Sigma 19 on ephotozine and check the IMATEST results,  you&#39;ll find out that the overall performance of those pesky micro 4/3 lenses isn&#39;t half bad, to say the least. In short 36 Mpixels of blur translate to well, blur that you can magnify a lot. Now that is an exageration in fact Nikon makes okay lenses, but not all of them are up to the task of servicing the 36 Mpixel machine. </p><p>8) Desired output size......if you enlarge to A3 (magazine spread) 16 Mpixels is enough to give 300 dpi.....more does Anna Wintour not need to be happy. If you however make a high def poster for a car stand or a large scale poster.....well then 16 Mpixels might not be enough. In this case sensor resolution beats image resolution. Allthough pixeling might do the trick as Ming Thein once proved when he uppixeled 16 Mpixel OM-D shots and mixed them with 24 Mpixel (downpixeled) D800 shots. Client was non the wiser. </p><p>Now when you add all this together you can device situations (like for instance Scarlet Johansson on a red carpet) where a micro 4/3 like the OM-D can outplay it&#39;s strength (fast single AF (and accurate), bigger DOF, great IBIS etc. and lower weight) against a Nikon D800 (BTW a Nikon D4 can do this also since it has better ISO performance).</p><p>When shooting architecture (using a tripod) and using optimal light (sunny 16 anyone, meanig 100th of second, using aperture 16 at 100 ISO) a D800e will pulverise a OM-D (no doubt about it) using good glass of course (for instance Zeiss glass performes quite well on Nikon). But a D800e is bit of a prima ballerina it&#39;s a medium format DSLR in disguise and needs to be shot that way. If you use it like a ordinary DSLR you will get nice pictures but they will never reach their full potential (I know of photographer of the professional kind that cancelled D800 orders when the D600 came out, just because of this reason). </p><p>Now these two links to a German magezine are quite revealing, because here two camera&#39;s are parred.....a 16 Mpixel D4 versus a 16 Mpixel OM-D. The game is resolution.....and guess what....</p><p>http://www.colorfoto.de/produkte/nikon-d4-1277399.html (the Nikon D4)</p><p>http://www.colorfoto.de/produkte/olympus-om-d-e-m5-1273871.html</p><p>Now &quot;Auflösung&quot; is translated with resolution and higher is better.....and indeed the OM-D wins. And why, well I forgot one number in the game.</p><p>9) AA filter. As Pekka pointed out (and I had already noticed) the OM-D uses a AA (anti aliasing) filter of the flimsy kind. I would call it non existent either. Now AA is nothing more or nothing less then a build in blur filter over the sensor. The Nikon D800e does not use one, neither does the X-Pro 1 and the OM-D followed that route. The Nikon D4 however does use a standard (old school) AA filter, cripling it.....</p><p>So stop reading about sensor data. My first digital camera was a Konica Minolta Z3.....3.2 megapixel and even that could (thanks to some great optics) produce convincing A2 pictures. From that little camera I learned one thing.....a digital camera is system and a system has use cases. And you have to keep that in mind, all day and every day. No camera is a jack of all trades. A guy from Luminous Landscape compares cameras to cars and I parrafrase here: </p><p>&quot;You can lust for a Ferrari but when you have to take 6 kids to a baseball game a minivan is a better solution&quot;. </p><p>Hope I made things clear to you. </p><p>Greets, Ed.</p>]]></description></item><item><title>Juha comments on Nikon D800E and Olympus OM-D</title><author>Juha</author><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate><link>http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/5/3/nikon-d800e-and-olympus-om-d.html#comments</link><guid isPermaLink="false">1150021:13402122:comment/20022579</guid><description><![CDATA[<p>Moi! Just a bit thinking, wondering... What might be the reason behind, as it seems that bigger sensor does not give any remarkable benefit? Is there something extremely good in sensor technology used by Olympus? Or, technology in general is such that already quite small sensors can give very good image quality and sensor size just can not bring very essential improvement?</p>]]></description></item></channel></rss>